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  • jpkomm - Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - link

    In reference to the comments on ASrock's making of this board, I got word back from their US sales division as to when their board will actually be released in the US market. They said they have no plans on selling the "939Dual-SATAII" motherboard in the US region. Oi that bites. Anyone know of other companies planning on producing these boards? The ASrock board looks and (from the reviews) performs great, but I'm not going to hold out for the chance that it never comes to the US market.
  • justly - Wednesday, August 3, 2005 - link

    quote:

    They said they have no plans on selling the "939Dual-SATAII" motherboard in the US region.

    Are you actually surprised by this? I would probably do the same thing since most Americans will only purchase a product surrounded by marketing hype.
  • ElJefe - Monday, August 22, 2005 - link

    the dual sata 939 will be sold in the US. asrock said it, asrock america sales said it too................

    (just in case anyone reads this thread... but the real discussion is in the 2nd, newest article here at anandtech)
  • hazeldene - Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - link

    I wonder if you would be able to use an ATI AGP X-Series card as a Slave with an ATI X-series crossfire in the PCI-express slot... that would be the cheapest Crossfire / SLi upgrade ever !!!
  • mistersnail - Monday, July 18, 2005 - link

    http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/m1695-uli-1.htm

    Crossfire can be done on this board
  • val - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link

    #65 last but not least. Suyin is usually the very last thing company does. So buy it until you can. We loves all of you who look to only syntetic tests and benchmarks, we have cheap intel cpus - thanks to you .
  • val - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link

    #65 if you have in your room already 35, than there is something wrong with your room planing. No pcs can change it if you are still running heating or teaching in stove. And saying it last, do your math and learn what percents and thermall loss means. The difference to AMD platform is in percents of complete amount of heaters in room small and thermal loss increases exponentialy.
    However, world proves that some heating issues cannot change the fact that no "fanatic - glad of self punishment" admin would install room of amd systems.
  • mino - Saturday, July 16, 2005 - link

    #62 it was not mentioned exactly anywhere (no one knows it actually) but rough estimate is 4 to 8 weeks. I believe it will be much closer to the seconf number.

    #63 One think I forgot something. Do you really believe it is technically feasible to guarantee 38C ambient temperature when the is about 35C in the room ?
  • mino - Saturday, July 16, 2005 - link

    1) Actually I read tom's since they make some unique test sometimes. They are one of(many) relatively goog sites.

    2) Cooler classroom _will_ help mostly better learning/teaching, I said that.

    3) Actually I like AMD's approach. However where bussiness is concerned only facts matter. I bought many Intel systems recently, but they were chosen because of their better suitability then. This is not the case here (meaning almost whole [prescott lineup).

    4) actually in the room is normally running _single_ central heater. You forgot that rooms are not allways build in separate building. In this case only contacts with the outside are windows. Also remember the radiation form of heating causes lower temperature than convection at the sam output. The out pu t during the day should be around ~200W/machine(incl.LCD) + 1kW of lights make ~7kW which is close to your number. This however considers idle state, but there are working people about 50-70% of time so real average would be about 8kW for prescott room.

    5) Anobody saying idle Prescott PC+LCD will consume about 100W of power is either mislleading or has no idea what he is tlaking about. This figure however fits our Newcastle's nicely.

    6) Yes anybody could suck any number of any claims out of its finger anytime. Nothing new here.

    What matters to me our academic society could work in these new classrooms without major health issues and having to abuse IT staff for what they bought.
    That is what make me happy no matter what you think.
  • val - Saturday, July 16, 2005 - link

    #60: it is whole crap.
    You are reading too much toms hardware. Intel is not throttling when you install cooler properly.

    Cooler classroom will not help to admin when he have to spend there every day one hour.

    You are talking like typical AMD fanboy, using untrusted claims which nobody would ever believe. Trust me, that 5100W running 8 hours a day will not heat up to 30° when outside is -10 with "any" isolation.
    And even if it would, it would not heat it much more than 3000W using any power saving PC.
    I can suck out of my finger 20 claims like that one you posted - if you want, so save your time writing stories.
  • Jalf - Saturday, July 16, 2005 - link

    Sorry if I missed this, but any word on when we're going to see this chipset in retail?
  • mino - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    I believe there are many typo's. A least this:
    "...Ventilation was just able..." should be
    "...Ventilation was just NOT able..."
    and
    "... 5°C higher temperature..." should be
    "...5°C higher temperature than outdoors in average..."
  • mino - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    #59 Yeah, thats right. I just didn't want someone to fell in mistake by believing val on his 20W figure. I have to explain this a lot of times and it is sometimes hard to undo the damage done.

    val: actually I live in central Europe and here 1kWh costs ~ EUR 0.15 which IS cheap in Europe. I have made my own measurements and the problem is only 6xx series chips consume some reasonable amounts of energy. If they tested some older 5xx series model teh idle consumption easily reaches 120W with i865G while our AMD systems on SIS755/R9200 consume about 70W in C'nC mode and those are 130nm Newcastle chips !.
    Try this: place 30 of those machines in classroom without clima and here is the difference:

    Prescotts(Q3/04 530's) are overheating any time you trow something heavier o them. This poorly insulated room is ~30°C in the winter with heating OFF(outdoor -10) !!! Despite they bought LCD's to conserve space, after this summer courses they had to install clima for about 1/4 price of the whole IT instalation bought last year. The room was simply unusable anytime outdoor temperature reached 20C or more. Ventilation was just able to come around the problem since many could not work in the wind.

    This happened on another faculty we are sharing building with. In similar room (+/-0.5m, same situation) we have 30 A64 3000+ Newcastle chips w/Radeon 9200 passive cards. The machines are (except heavy multitasking which is rare there) equally powerfull but more responsive _and_ more reliable. The enviroment is also ways better, in the summer there only about 5°C higher temperature in average with moderate ventilation(one window). Clime would certainly help, but we consider investing into another IT room more important at this time. Now I'm happy my arguing last year time brought some fruits

    The prescott machines have to date(3/4yr timeframe) about 30% failure rate. Mainly caused by underrated power circuitry on MB's and PSU's. I know, they should have bought better PSU's. But that would only extend the price delta of 10% at the time of purchase (same suplier). I still remember how my friend from IT dep. of that faculty laughed at me then how stupid I am by using so underdog and unreliable config for our project.

    To sum it up:
    1) Prescott will have to cost $50 less to assure same reliability system at the same price/perf as A64
    2) If 1) is fulfilled(i.e. some Dell machines) such a system could a good buy for causual use and definitelly a sngle choice if heavier multitasking is a must.
    3) However for larger and especially for dense envirements prescott-based solution colud be a real pain in the ass.

    4) 6xx somwhat improve this but after arrival of 90nm A64's just com pensate for AMD's improvement in power consumption thus the absolute delta remains approx. the same, the relative one even worsens.

    5) On hugely positive aspect of prescott's existence is undoubtedly the fact that it forced even the cheapest case manufacturers to make some arflow in the case. I believe this could not have been achieved byt any other means that prescott. For that we should all be really thankfull.


    huh, jet another novel ;-(
  • Jep4444 - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    why are you people arguing over power consumption, its irrelevant to the topic
  • val - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    München last year wasted only for people's comfort (more often street train than would be needed) over 270 MW hours.
    This means 1.000.000 people gaming whole year 3 hours a day. For stupid people comfort.
  • val - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    #54 one mid size advertising panel on building takes about 20000W, you have in USA them on one street more than we have people in some villages.
    And i hope that you and all your hippie friends are not using plasma TVs or worse CRT TVs and monitors to screw my nature.
  • val - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    #54 i know, but i am trying to tell you, that one useless powerplant only for military researches will cover milions of people possible waste. Who cares power plants, you change nothing.
    What i am saying is, that if it would be important, people should first STOP USING THEIR CLIMA, change the bulbs to energy efficient ones, do YOUR MATH.

    Minos bulbs harm the world much more than mine pc!
    And how much takes your clima? Your hot water collector?! use brain please. You cannot tout on intel for poor 100W of average use no more than 2 hours full PC load.
    Your car damages nature and costs you more than difference to me having some VIA cpu to save your nature. Get it to your head.
    So stop talk like hippie.
  • SilverTrine - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    So can this board handle 2 ATi cards if one is a crossfire or it just for Nvidia SLI?
  • nserra - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    #52

    200 euro for you, but 200 euro x 10.000 people is 2.000.000€.
    I win 800€ month, make the 2.000.000€/800€ how many months of salary is it?

    Isn’t just 20W as you say, it's 20W to 100W. You are right that people aren’t playing games the all day, but is the all day idle? , in fact put some complex 3D screen saver and you will see how idle it is.

    Also 20W for you but 20W x 10.000 people is 200.000W (best case scenario), but if it's 100W x 10.000 people its 1.000.000Watts!!!

    So do you your math, because the world isn’t just you!
  • val - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    #50 while intel usually works from first release when the mobo brand quality is not underestimated.
  • val - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    #47 mino, you are pushing arguments which have nothing to do with real world. UV radiation in that level makes no harm, do not forget to hide your self on the sun. AMD fanboys started to talk about heating and all this crap, 100W bulb heats your room with 86W you wise guy.

    And energy efficienty? Close to here is powerplant for military research which have dedicated 2x400MNW power plant. So who cares? This is 10.000.000 PCs which is amount of families here and caring for that no PC runs 100% load all the time.

    Costs? I dont know about you, but i am just out of school and even when it would be 200 euro per year difference, I CANNOT SEE THAT! And again! Show me somebody who have gaming PC running games 24/7.

    So caring for energy and heat more than for stability and reliability is just finding nonsense weakpoint of platform YOU dont LIKE because you just want to be different and saying that popular "MAINSTREAM BS".
    So calm down fanboys, AMD will never get market share their owners dreams they deserves.
  • PhoneZ - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    I would almost never run a system without the chipset drivers. a VIA system could go down at any random point without the 4in1s, you need the Intel INF Updae to install the SMBus, and Windows doesnt have drivers for any of the nForce chipset hardware. Bbut I will admit that i won't install the SIS IDE cause that can cause system to becoe unstable. nForce can be very stable but has alot of bugs that can destroy yer OS if you dont disable certain features(ie firewall).
  • nserra - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    All platforms are good, but i admit the drivers suck. Keep the default OS ones and all runs good.

    I have the default XP drivers on my SIS board and all runs stable and fast.

    This new Uli is looking good, specialy for my 9700 card.

    My ex nforce2 took 1 year and half to get stable, and to get the sound card working right.
  • Cygni - Friday, July 15, 2005 - link

    Wtf, Nforce is unstable? Wow. Could have fooled me... havent rebooted for a few weeks.

    Honestly, the Intel vs AMD fanboy attacks are hillarious, because both know approximatly nothing.

    Both platforms are rock solid, period. Stability isnt even a legitimate argument anymore.
  • Xenoterranos - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    Hey, now I can update to skt 939!
  • mino - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    #34;#44;#45 You're an idiot. No appologies.

    If Intel system uses 180W idle and AMD system 100W idle, it is NOT 20W difference.

    And about your "energy efficient bulb" You forgot to mention that these bulbs emit UV radiation unlike traditional edison-style bulbs. So the light You get from them is NOT the light you get from traditional ones. In PC world, however the performance of A64 and P4 is interchangeable.

    I don't believe You will get it.
    But someone had to try...
  • mino - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    #27 Don't insult Uli, we have yet to see good driver support from NVIDIA. VIA,SIS,Intel is the league Uli is playing in as far as driver support is concerned. ATI/nVidia have ONLY performance and ATI has good integrated graphics givers.
  • val - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    #37 my prescott is not throttling, i can install cooler correct.
    " Anand said he had no problems at all with his reference board" they are testing it few hours at most, this is not prooven platform. nForce is still being good rated in newspapers, and look how crappy it is. Not talking about VIA.
    "You must save tons of money on your electric bill in the winter." No, 20W makes no difference either for electric bill or warm in room. Go back to school. 70W i save by changing my bulb from 100W to energy efficient 20W one.
  • val - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    #38 maybe you should next time give somebody 50$ to build and install computer for you if you are so LAME that you cannot build stable pc. And you believe me, that i didnt expected any other claim from AMD fanboy, and i know that you would say this even when it is not truth.
  • stmok - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    Forgot to add...

    The ASRock mobo is estimated to come at end of July! (Assuming no delays).
  • stmok - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    Try that...Does that work?
    [url]http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/newspro/viewnew...[/url]
  • stmok - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link


    Check it out...ASRock's 939Dual-SATA2
    [url]http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/newspro/viewnew...[/url

    Supports AGP, PCI-Express, and a CPU Upgrade feature (Supports Socket M2).
  • Manzelle - Thursday, July 14, 2005 - link

    #39 - Ditto.
  • saiku - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    aha, I can now stop thinking about what I'll get on Ebay for my 6800GT AGP card. Awesome !
  • karlreading - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    number 34 - ur so silly.
    i run a amd system and a p4 system. believe me, my pentium 4 is far less stable and BSOD's way more thsan my AMD system.
    so there!
    Karlos!
  • Avalon - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #34 - "Underdog CPU on underdog chipset manufactured by underdog mobo maker. This sounds like nice BSOD generator for me.
    Blank"

    Since when were Gigabyte and Abit underdog board makers? They've been around for a while. Anyway, Anand said he had no problems at all with his reference board, so why would you believe that just because the board would be in your hands that it would suddenly become unstable? Afraid it's the AMD? Think again. In fact, while you're doing that, enjoy your Prescott throttling and causing your computer to shut down. You must save tons of money on your electric bill in the winter.
  • PhoneZ - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #25 "I'd want to know what the drivers are like and no matter how good this chipset is, I doubt it's driver support will be as good as the nVidia."

    Have you seen how bad the nVidia nForce support has been?
    Checkout the nVidia mobo forum:
    http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?s=a549406b86b65...

    The Firewall has never worked, the nVRAID while versatile has numerous quirks (Randomly degraded arrays and lock ups with NCQ/TCQ enabled), the nForce3 has compatibility problems with nVidia video cards. Also with some new nForce4 boards the current driver version doesnt have audio support so your forced to use the realtek one on the CD, which sucks.

    The nForce 4 has been out for quite some time now, and the problems people are having seem to go un-addressed. I have and Nforce4 SLI board and they can be run stable but you have to disable features that are potential selling features of the chipset.
  • Furen - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    wow val, stop fanning the flames ^^
  • val - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Underdog CPU on underdog chipset manufactured by underdog mobo maker. This sounds like nice BSOD generator for me.
  • Megatomic - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Oh yeah, this is what I've been hoping for. With one of these boards I can go SD core or X2 and continue to use my 6800GT AGP8X card. Oh happy day! :D
  • Sabresiberian - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Dang! I just bought an AGP mainboard! LOL! Well, I probably saved $100 and money was a concern for me.

    Glad to see this come out still, hats off to ULI :)

    Wish it had come out 6 months or more ago, I think that would have been more timely, but better late than never, heh.
  • nserra - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #Wesley Fink
    Repeating....
    I noted that the speed of the AGP is very good, but vs the older 1689 is it equal, higher or is the 1689 even higher. Can you do some 939A8X-M test just to check?
    Also your explanation to #20 is confusing (at least to me), isn’t HT (200x5) = 1000HT speed and the chipset can do 400 (2,3,4X400) ?


    #28 I think Uli chipsets as been always one of the faster with hard disk transfers (a lot faster), the older don’t this I don’t know, also I don’t know the CPU % hit.
  • QV - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    This looks like an interesting board. When I found out that K8T890 doesn't support dual-core, I figured my next machine would be nF4, but this looks good enough that by the time I build my next machine (which will probably be months away, for money reasons), I may very well use a board based on this chipset.

    Also, speaking of dual AGP/PCI-E solutions, can't the VIA PT880 Pro do the same? I know it's for a different platform, but it doesn't seem to be a hack like some boards seem to use, and ASRock makes one or two boards based on it. What's the story there? Can the PT880 Pro really also do the triple graphics interface, and platform differences aside, how does it stack up against the M1695?
  • L3p3rM355i4h - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Interesting. Hopefully it doesn't go the way of the KT890.
  • MarkHark - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Does anybody know if this ULI south bridge supports NCQ and how its hard drive I/O performance compares to Nforce4 and SIS?
  • smn198 - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #25 If I was after AGP with the possibility to upgrade to PCIe without changing motherboard then yes I would be interested but I doubt that this feature will interest OEMs. The cost of a full motherboard will be pushed up once features such as SATA2 and Gbit LAN are added. The possibility of two full x16 PCIe slots is the most interesting thing to me as it could add a bit of future proofing.

    I would be interested if it had been out a few months and I wasn't going to be an early adopter. I'd want to know what the drivers are like and no matter how good this chipset is, I doubt it's driver support will be as good as the nVidia. Good luck to them though! We need another high-end chipset maker for AMD.
  • Zebo - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Abit and Gigabyte both have full-blown boards in the works.
    ----------------
    Well that certainly makes things interesting.. Thanks again.. And I take back my comment about DOA like SIS 75x seems to be:)
  • Wesley Fink - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #25 - Competitive and much cheaper also works - with the unique AGP on PCIe to get your attention.
  • smn198 - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #15 - I agree but also, they don't need to show that they are as competitive as the nForce4, they need to be better.
  • fishy - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link


    Exciting news to me:

    _I still have an 'ol Asus/ Ali motherboard
    running, and it has been "very good to me" :)

    _I'm still looking for a AMD 64 motherboard
    (bought an NF4 board a few months ago
    and got rid of it really fast, too many
    problems)

    Asus, get on this fast, please!
  • Wesley Fink - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #12 - This is a First Look with 2 days testing time for the review. There is a followup Reference Board with better options and we will be analyzing disk and I/O on that board. Testing 10/100 Ethernet tells us little about the board. Abit and Gigabyte both have full-blown boards in the works.

    #15 - The drivers were trouble-free in our testing. Reference Boards are famous for quirky drivers but these worked as they should.

    #20 - 400 IS the speed when I set 200 Clock Speed in BIOS, so I am talking about 400 Clock Speed (800). It isn't truly FSB on an HT machine, so I've changed the wording and the DDR reference error to make it better understood. We are expecting the second Reference Board with improved overclocking shortly and will do more testing for a Part 2 with that board.
  • nserra - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Wesley Fink i noted that the speed of the AGP is very good, but vs the older 1689 is it equal, higher or is the 1689 even higher. Can you do some 939A8X-M test just to check.

    #20 He mean 400Mhz. Thats a typo.
    Uli say their chipset would do 400Mhz bus speed i just dont know it it's 400x5 or 2000 HT.
  • PrinceGaz - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Page 4 Overclocking - "Since there were no voltages for memory, we had to toss our normal overclock procedures out the window" and "Without memory voltage, the only way that this can be tested is by lowering memory ratios to those that can run at default voltage"

    Since you like promoting OCZ products and they seem more than happy to send you them (you used OCZ memory and PSU for this test), why not ask OCZ to send you a pair of their DDR Booster things?

    From the same paragraph- "We have seen reports that this new ULi Reference Board, or more specifically the sister Reference Board with the dual 8X riser slot, can reach a FSB setting of DDR400"

    Reach an FSB setting of DDR400? Isn't that the default memory speed anyway? I certainly hope it can reach DDR400! :) Did you mean that it can reach 400MHz FSB?
  • probedb - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    This is fantastic. I was wanting a skt939 mobo in a server but all the PCIe RAID boards I've seen need an 8x socket which currently nothing except servers support in tandem with a gfx card. The fact that you could get more than 20 lanes is brilliant news for me :)
  • SynthDude2001 - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #17 - OMG. I want one now!

    Any ideas if this will be able in the near future too? (Say, within a month or maybe two)
  • stmok - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    If you need Linux driver support for ULi chipsets, head to ocworkbench.com forums OR search/contact ULi about it.

    I know the previous generation, M1689 chipset did work without a problem in Linux. (I used Fedora Core 4, Gentoo and Slackware).

    I was already excited about this chipset (M1695) MONTHS ago...It must take quite a bit of time to get the word out from Taiwan to USA.

    If you thought the chipset was interesting.
    Check out what ASRock is gonna do with it!

    They have a mobo under development that uses this chipset and have an upgrade option to support future Socket M2 CPUs.

    Don't believe me?

    ASRock 939Dual-SATA (formerly ASRock 939Dual-M2)
    http://forums.techwatch.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=448...

    SO what do we have here?
    (1) PCI-Express and AGP support (no performance loss)

    (2) SLI capable. Over at ocworkbench, they have an article which demonstrates that the M1695 DOES support SLI. The special dual PCI-Express 8x riser card is only a prototype (consider it a concept demonstrator), and NOT a retail product...Either way, SLI on M1695 works...And performance is identical to NF4 SLI.

    (3) Dual-core support. (both the older M1689 and newer M1695 can handle dual-core without issues).

    (4) Overclocking. (ocworkbench.com has shown the newer M1695 has PCI/PCI-Express/AGP locks, and it can handle very high overclock bus speeds)...The current M1689 does NOT have PCI/AGP locks. So ULi did listen to the enthusiast crowd. :)

    (5) Upgradeability (ASROCK only)...Who wouldn't want a mobo that supports Socket M2 as well as Socket 939? :)

    (6) Its marketed to be slightly cheaper than VIA chipsets!

    (7) Abit, ASUS, ASRock, Gigabyte are some mobo manufacturers that have released mobos based on ULi chipsets, and they're working on products with the newer M1695.


    Its not surprising that ULi is offering so much. They have been noted for saying they want to be the very best Taiwan based chipset provider. And from the looks of it, they're getting there quite well with the M1695.
  • Calin - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Me three :D

    Calin
  • Googer - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Quality drivers will make or break the deal on this chipset.

    Quality Hardware counts too, but drivers are a deal maker or breaker.
  • SynthDude2001 - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Absolutely amazing. Assuming they allow for a bit more overclocking options (voltages mainly), and that it does appear in August like they say it will - this WILL be my next motherboard.

    My 6800GT still has a lot of life left in it I think, but the Athlon XP finally needs to go. I can pick up an X2 and one of these boards, use my 6800GT for now, throw in an R520 or '7800 Ultra' later, and probably be set for at least a year, maybe two.

    I can't wait to see these appear at retail!
  • Cygni - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Thats the most important thing for ULI right now. They need somebody, ANYBODY, to make a board with 2 physical PCI-Ex 16x slots AND agp 8x. The riser card is great in that it proves that it works (and that SLI works as fast as a Nforce 4 SLI board as seen on OCWorkbench), but it aint going to fit in any case that ive seen. 2 PCI-Ex 16, an AGP, 2 PCI, and a PCI-Ex 4 slot... and we got one beautiful board.

    Judging by past ULi/ALi pricing, it will be dirt cheap too. Actually, i dont think we need to worry so much about whos gonna make it... a quick search on Newegg shows that ASRock, Gigabyte, Abit, Albatron, and Chaintech are all making boards based on the less exciting 1689 chipset.

    Im excited. Amazing AGP performance, solid PCI-Ex performance WITH full on SLI, and a low price. Perfect for a few upgrades to K8-ville.
  • Zebo - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Thanks Wes but why no disk, USB, or network performance comparisons?

    This board(s) is DOA IMO..

    Crap realtek audio and no video don't even let it enter the bargian market unlike ATI will do.

    second Uli is a nobody in our market like SiS and won't get any serious attention from the likes of ASUS/ABIT/DFI/Gigabyte performance works.




  • kmmatney - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Woohoo! Just what I needed so I can keep my video card (6600GT) while upgrading from my Athlon XP. Waht we NEED though, is a Palermo for Socket 939.
  • JustAnAverageGuy - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    </didn't read the first paragraph on the last page>

    :blush;

    Any guesses on which manufacturers will be using the chipsets then? Asus, Abit, MSI, etc?
  • JustAnAverageGuy - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Any idea on when the chipset will be available in retail markets?

    That is VERY impressive. :thumbsup; ULi
  • Cookie Crusher - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Three words: I want one.

    Ok, some more words: This board is what I think many people have been clamouring for since early this year. A true bridge board that allows all of us average people to make the switch with the maximum amount of flexibility is what we've wanted.

    The fact that it performs well is gravy. For all of us who jumped in on socket 754 early on and have waited to switch to socket 939 (and necessarily pci-e) this now let's us make the move without gouging our wallets.
  • ocyl - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    Driver support? Linux?
  • Zepper - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    ocworkbench has had several articles on this chipset. Check that out too.

    .bh.
  • Furen - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    #4: Hell yeah, now we just need for someone to actually make these...
  • ryanv12 - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    whoa! I didn't know we were getting these boards! And here I was, about to upgrade to a PCI-E board, reluctantly. I think I'll just do Dual-Core and pick up this motherboard and drop in a GTX later. I have a 6800GT that's still pretty competent :)
  • Shinei - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    The only thing I care about is PRICE. If these suckers roll out for $80-$100 cheaper than the nForce4 SLI boards, guess where my money's going... And I'm taking my 6800GT with me! :)
  • Avalon - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    300HTT, AGP and PCIe on the same board without performance penalty, performance the same as NF4, and probably a cheaper chipset price due to being the underdog...sounds like ULi has something very promising on their hands. The only thing it seems to lack feature wise is gigabit LAN, but I don't care about that. Some may.
  • Furen - Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - link

    So cool, I want this ^^

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